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  • @paulhenry  Nov 28

    I used BiaB until a few FAWMs ago, when I got mad at PG Music for what I thought was deceptive advertising. The short story is that the upgrade ads implied (at least to me) that I was getting more in the upgrade than they actually provided. So I felt cheated, I wrote to them. They did nothing. So I stopped using them. But. . . . it's a very nice tool (as of course you all know) for roughing out a song quickly. So. . . I'm thinking about getting back into it.

  • @paulhenry  Nov 28

    BTW, anyone else have mixed feelings about PG Music as a company?

  • @kevinemmrich  Dec 2

    I have never had any issues with PG Music. But I first got the everything pak and then always got the Ulra-Pak upgrades, so I was always getting all the realtraks and accesories. Therefore, I couldn't be disappointed. The other options were pretty confusing, though!.

    I haven't upgraded or used BIAB in a couple of years, but I think it is a very powerful program -- especially if you just want to do backing tracks. I have BIAB 2017.

  • @coolparadiso  Jan 2

    no issues with them either i am upgraded to 20. Great for doing quick professional demos for clients.

  • @lvgd09  Jan 3

    @paulhenry Year after year the biab interface looks the same and the yearly version updates are more added real styles. I think biab works very well but I've never been interested in real styles. No need to update here. I'm only interested in the midi features (fabulous).

  • @scottlake Jan 3

    Their PowerTracks ProAudio was the first DAW I ever used. They were very late to VST incorporation and I pretty much left the use of their products. I have no issue with their integrity, but their GUI and advertising graphic design are 10-20 years old. I think that severely limits the size of their customer base. It’s the ideal tool for FAWM but far too confusing as to what is really needed with the 50 different ‘PAK’s. They need to simplify their product offerings down to 3 choices only. Like Steve Jobs did to the Apple product lineup when he came back there.

  • @sunnymae  Jan 5

    OK...what is BIAB??

  • @lvgd09  Jan 5

    Short for band in a box software. I prefer biab (lower case).

  • @sunnymae  Jan 5

    Thanks @lvgd09 😮)

  • @jcooper  Jan 6

    If anyone is thinking of trying it out for fawm please send me an email. I recently became a reseller and can offer some good prices. Joanne@joannecooper.co.za

  • @krayzie003 Jan 14

    No issues with PG Music here, but I don't use it much anymore since switching to modern electronic style.

  • @scottlake Jan 14

    I finally bought it. Will see if I can manage anything with it this year

  • @pearlmanhattan  Jan 14

    I upgrated to 2020! I'm excited about really digging into it this year. There's so much of it I still don't know much about.

  • @gubna Jan 15

    Whatever is... biab?

  • @scottlake Jan 15

    Visit www.pgmusic.com and watch the demos. Enter chords, pick a style, out comes a backing track.

    Of course there is more to it than that, but that is the basic concept.

  • @ductapeguy Jan 15

    I have been using the more limited competitor iRealpro on Android for years. Today as part of my pre-fawm gear acquisition syndrome, I flipped the switch and bought band in a box pro 2020. I suspect that robot arrangements will dominate my FAWM this year.

  • @jcooper  Jan 19

    Just upgraded to the 2020 version. I am excited and hope I can make time to make a meaningful contribution to fawm this year. I have just started a rather hectic job so that is taking most of my brain power! I am thinking simple songs with simple backing, mainly due to time constraints). Something like Cat Power, (that I have just learned about). Looking forward to finding some great lyrics.

  • @ductapeguy Jan 21

    @kevinemmrich I listened to several of your songs that are showcased on the pgmusic website. Sounds good.

  • @kevinemmrich  Jan 22

    @ductapeguy I do have a lot of songs posted over there! If it hadn't been for biab, I never would have been able to create my own backing tracks. I found it to be a winderful tool.

  • @ductapeguy Jan 25

    @jcooper I enjoyed a bunch of your songs over on BIAB radio today.

  • @ductapeguy Jan 25

    I have been monkeying with BIAB for about a week now. Today I completed my first robotband arrangement with RealTracks for a song I wrote for my uncle last 5090 called The Caller. http://sean.mcgaughey.ca/20195090/Sea...

    I, for one, salute my new robot band.

  • @kevinemmrich  Jan 25

    @ductapeguy : excellent first biab tune. You have already mastered the art of NOT throwing every instrument known to mankind into one song! I suffer from that syndrome!

    Mighty fine lyrics, too.

  • @jcooper  Jan 25

    @ductapeguy cool song. Love that opening chord sequence.

  • @keithcuts  Jan 27

    I am very impressed with biab customer support. You call and someone answers. They connect you to someone who gets you the right answers you need. That's rare in 2019/2020.
    On a side note I like the interface and the complexity of it. It's simple enough to learn if you want to. Complicated enough to keep it from being something everyone uses.

  • @keithcuts  Jan 27

    Nice track @ductapeguy good storytelling

  • @jcooper  Feb 2

    Up and running with band-in-a-box 2020. This one is a colllab with @donna
    https://fawm.org/songs/100046/

  • @pearlmanhattan  Feb 2

    First track of the year, enjoy

    https://fawm.org/songs/100186/

  • @jcooper  Feb 2

    And another one. This one with @cindyrella (trying to get ahead çause I know work is going to get in the way next week). This one was based on a style straight out of BIAB no editing, no arranging, no effects on the instrument tracks. https://fawm.org/songs/100634/

  • @keithcuts  Feb 2

    https://fawm.org/songs/100280/ <-it’s here. You can go if you want to 🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @markg  Feb 17

    Hip hop: 25 Volumes https://fawm.org/songs/100655/

    Dance song: Crazy New Dance Called IDLYNM https://fawm.org/songs/103660/

  • @tsunamidaily  Feb 24

    i'll be dropping a BiaB track soon. i've largely eschewed it this year, but i will soon use it for one track!

  • @tsunamidaily  Mar 2

    it's (they're) here.

    those tears again: https://fawm.org/songs/109974/

    those tears again with original demo guitar:
    https://fawm.org/songs/109981/

    my demo guitar was allegedly making it impossible for an erstwhile collaborator to put a music-generating program to my demo. i posted my demo, the track i created with BiaB, and the BiaB track with the guitar from the original demo. they track perfectly, by the way....
    all told, it took about 3 hours with BiaB to figure everything out-- bass runs, inserted silence-- it really is an imminently utile product.
    i'll still be pissed the first song realized with it that charts.

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