Hank Williams In Hell

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  • @evinwolverton  Jan 2019

    A challenge borrowed from my friend Mark Simos, songwriting heavyweight (Alison Krauss, Laurie Lewis) and Berklee professor.

    — Write a verse and chorus starting with a chord progression, using only the plain chords I, IV, and V (1, 4, and 5).
    — You have only straight four-bar phrases to use, and get just one chord per bar. No fancy stuff to make the progression more rhythmically exciting.
    — The “In Hell” rule is simply this: once you’ve used a chord sequence for a line (say, 1 4 5 5 or 1 5 4 1 or 5 4 5 5) you can’t use that sequence again. (Repeat your whole verse or chorus section, however, as much as you like).

    Says Mark: “It seems like such a simple restriction. Yet the process of ‘thinking through’ a progression this way is totally transformative for many new writers. You must write something of a narrative in the progression. If you hold off worrying about lyrics, or melody, or even what the song is going to be ‘about’ or the emotion, until you have a progression you really like, the rest of the song will often come to you in an almost magical way.”

    Tag em: #hankwilliamsinhell

  • @wobbiewobbit  Jan 2019

    sounds like a fun challenge, though i can imagine getting all muddled up when attempting to perform it live!

  • @fuzzy  Jan 2019

    Nice.
    Maybe I'll try it; I'm always up for some experimentation.
    I was thinking about Hank Williams the other day, poor guy.

  • @nancyrost  Jan 2019

    I am all over this.

  • @adforperu  Jan 2019

    As someone who's just started learning music theory, this kind of stuff is right up my street

  • @pearlmanhattan  Jan 2019

    Might try this

  • @roddy  Jan 2019

    Just tried it - it works! It's a bit like a 4 digit pin code with only three numbers - 1, 4 and 5. Lots of possible combinations. Thanks for this @evinwolverton

  • @metalfoot  Jan 2019

    So I don't quite get it-- does this mean you can't reuse the verse or chorus either? Or is it just ie.
    V: I I I IV
    V I V I
    IV IV IV I
    C: I I IV V
    V I IV I
    V V V I
    then you can repeat verse/chorus ad infinitum?

  • @spikedirection  Jan 2019

    This is about my level. I'll give it a whirl

  • @evinwolverton  Jan 2019

    @metalfoot youve got it! No line repeats between the V and C, but repeat those sections as much as you want.

  • @thelostcartographer  Jan 2019

    I'll try it!

  • @evinwolverton  Jan 2019

    Just tried it this morning. It's harder than you think it's gonna be : )

  • @tan482  Jan 2019

    Hmm this sounds tricky but a good framework to try!

  • @leepat  Jan 2019

    @evinwolverton but the "in hell" rule said you can't repeat a line again "in the song"?

  • @apertome  Jan 2019

    This is delightfully twisted. May have to try something along these lines.

  • @evinwolverton  Jan 2019

    @leepat I only mean within the verse or chorus sections. You can repeat those whole sections as much as you want.

  • @andygetch  Jan 2019

    Or maybe just maybe I'll use different combinations throughout 😀. This challenge reminded me of a recent local show where the singer-songwriter introduced a song in the style of Hank Williams using only three chords. Then when the song was played between the hammer-ons, pull-offs, and various chord positions up the neck I lost track at fifteen. That was a different kinda HWH LOL.

  • @regis  Jan 2019

    This one is right up my alley. I’m in!

  • @gbg2016  Jan 2019

    Me too.

  • @evinwolverton  Feb 2019

    And we're off with the first example: https://fawm.org/songs/90101/

    – 3 chords
    – no repeat patterns in verse or chorus
    – have fun

    That's all there is ♥︎

  • @ductapeguy Feb 2019

    What fresh madness is this. I got out some grid paper and tried to list all the permutations of 3 chords in blocks of 4. I got 80... If I did it right.

    I accept your challenge but I'm very fearful of the madness ahead.

  • @francessmith  Feb 2019

    I think I might try this, in an English sort of way............

  • @spingo  Feb 2019

    I don't know how many are possible, but this will hurk out a bunch (I used CFG as the letters -- 80, 4, CFG)
    http://www.dave-reed.com/Nifty/randSe...

    CCCG CFFF FFGF FCCC GGFG GGGF FFCG GGCF FCCC GFFG CFCF CFGF FCGG CGFF FGCF CCCF GFFF CFGG GCGC GGFF FFGG GFFC FGCG CFFC GFCC GFCF CFCF FCFF GCCF CFGF CCFC CGCF FCGG CFCF FGGF FFCG CCFC FCFG CFGC FCCF CCCG FGGF CCGF FFCF CCCG GGFG FFCF GCGF CCGG CFGG FGFF FCFG CGCC FGFC FCFF FGFG GFFF GCCC GGCC FGCG FCGG GFFF GCCF GGCF CCCF GCGC FCGF FCCF FFCF CGFG FFGG CGGG CGGC CGGF CGFG FGCC CGFC GFCF GFGC FGCC

  • @skylermf  Feb 2019

    This sounds crqzy, I might have to try it!

  • @nateger  Feb 2019

    Very cool challenge! I did a songwriting workshop with Mark and bought his book. Can't wait to give this a try

  • @ductapeguy Feb 2019

    I keep playing with those darn numbers.
    Looks like 81 Permuations.
    Ordered sequentially and then grouped according to the starting chord, it sorts nicely into nine columns of nine. Looks pretty and gives me a starting place for ordering chords. Now I have to stop playing with numbers, and start writing music.

    1111 1411 1511 4111 4411 4511 5111 5411 5511
    1114 1414 1514 4114 4414 4514 5114 5414 5514
    1115 1415 1515 4115 4415 4515 5115 5415 5515
    1141 1441 1541 4141 4441 4541 5141 5441 5541
    1144 1444 1544 4144 4444 4544 5144 5444 5544
    1145 1445 1545 4145 4445 4545 5145 5445 5545
    1151 1451 1551 4151 4451 4551 5151 5451 5551
    1154 1454 1554 4154 4454 4554 5154 5454 5554
    1155 1455 1555 4155 4455 4555 5155 5455 5555

  • @tcelliott  Feb 2019

    I first read this and I was like, cool. But not for me, bro. Then I listened to Evin's song and I was like.. cool... I wanna try to do THAT!

    All that to say, I might try this.

  • @tcelliott  Feb 2019

  • @evinwolverton  Feb 2019

    @tcelliott i thought it would be hokey bullshit when I first heard about it. I’m so glad I was wrong.

  • @tcelliott  Feb 2019

    @evinwolverton Similar experience here. I've got my chord progression together, just gotta write the song. Thank you very much for the suggestion, it's a good one.

  • @tcelliott  Feb 2019

    https://fawm.org/songs/90530/

    Intro:
    4545
    Verse:
    1545
    1544
    1415
    4455
    Chorus:
    1451
    1454
    4145
    4511
    Bridge:
    5544
    5545

  • @claycove Feb 2019

    Oooh, I'm definitely going to give this a go, sounds like a fun challenge!

  • @jcooper  Feb 2019

    This is cool. I'm gonna give it a try

  • @jcooper  Feb 2019

    Well that was fun! I dont know how I m ever going to learn the chord progression to sing this one live...

    https://fawm.org/songs/90861/

    A D A A
    D D E E
    D E A D
    D E E A

    D A D A
    D D E A
    A D A E
    D E E A

    Thanks for putting this challenge out there I would never have thought it possible.

  • @jcooper  Feb 2019

    I now see I that cheated.. I used DEEA twice...

  • @leepat  Feb 2019

    @jcooper doesn't count if you used DADA before that 😉

  • @stevenwesleyguiles  Feb 2019

    Ok. This is freakin nuts! I see lots of numbers. In different orders...but I also just came here from @evinwolverton's gorgeous song "What Will I Do?"

    I know what I'll TRY to do...write a song somehow like what you guys are doing.

    Going back to read threads and understand more.

  • @robotkitten  Feb 2019

    Sounds like fun! I've started a song from lyrics and from melody before, but never from chords.

  • @francessmith  Feb 2019

    Ok,I've done a song for the challenge. Here's the link, the chords are written in the liner notes, if you want to see them.

    https://fawm.org/songs/91185/

  • @philkmills  Feb 2019

    Got one here also:

    https://fawm.org/songs/91706/

  • @kovbleu  Feb 2019

    I don't understand the numbers at ALL.... are the chords that @spingo and @jcooper did legit? I need to see this structure in actual chords. Ahhh!!

  • @spingo  Feb 2019

    @kovbleu Mine are chords! Just those numbers in the key of C.

    You could go to that link I posted and put in chords you like better - EAB or ADE etc.

  • @kovbleu  Feb 2019

    Thanks @spingo! So for one song you have to get through that entire list of combinations? Or can you just start it and follow along up til you want to be done as long as you don't repeat any?

  • @spingo  Feb 2019

    @kovbleu No no, you just pick a couple you like and can't reuse any 4-chord combo, as I understand it. Look at @jcooper's above!

  • @kovbleu  Feb 2019

    Okay, awesome! Thank you I appreciate it.

  • @jcooper  Feb 2019

    I enjoyed this one so much I have another. It certainly forces you to come up with some twists and turns in the melody

  • @tcelliott  Feb 2019

    @kovbleu - The numbers are scale degrees. Those that used the chord names are giving you the key. For instance, if I play the 1545 then I pick a key, say G and play G D C D ... or in the key of C it would be C G F G.

    Here is a chart I found on the internet to more easily decipher the numbers.

  • @kovbleu  Feb 2019

    THANK YOU @tcelliott !! I appreciate the chart. 😀

  • @jcooper  Feb 2019

    Here is my second one for the challenge. And blow me down I have cheated again 😀
    https://fawm.org/songs/92359/
    Intro
    GDGD

    Verse
    GDCG
    CDGD
    GCDG
    CDGD

    Chorus
    CGCG
    CDDG

    Bridge
    CCGG
    DDGG
    CGCG
    CCDD

  • @paulhenry  Feb 2019

    Just stumbled on this challenge. I can't stress enough how much this speaks to my approach for this FAWM.

    https://fawm.org/songs/92424/

  • @darkmantle  Feb 2019

    I just finished mine. I got the #tarotcard challenge, and the #sm57 challenge all done on this one too. 😀

    https://fawm.org/songs/92469/

  • @paulhenry  Feb 2019

    Okay. Had to write this one.
    https://fawm.org/songs/92552/

  • @alyxanderjames  Feb 2019

    Here’s my submission, which includes my first attempt at slide guitar: https://fawm.org/songs/93253/

  • @ductapeguy Feb 2019

    That took soo long. I started on Feb 3, abandoned on Feb 6 and got 'er done today. Sometimes https://fawm.org/songs/95034/

  • @markg  Feb 2019

    The hardest part was the singing, trying to follow the unconventional changes. That's my excuse for the vocals. It was fun to chart out different I, IV, V combos for each line. This one's called Reincarnation Suitcase, a twist on hell.
    https://fawm.org/songs/95340/

  • @moonraccoon  Feb 19

    What a great way to spend a FAWM day! Here's mine https://fawm.org/songs/95671/

    +Intro+
    1111
    1115

    +Verses+
    4411
    4415
    4154
    1515
    1155

    =Choruses=
    4151
    4511
    4545
    4515
    4551

    +Bridge+
    4444
    5555
    1544

  • @robotkitten  Feb 23

    I slipped in some bits from other songs that use additional chords (it will be obvious which parts), but the verses and chorus that I wrote fulfill the challenge:

    Verses:
    1411
    5145
    4145
    4151

    Chorus:
    1445
    1451

    https://fawm.org/songs/96996/

  • @andygetch  Feb 23

    another one, mostly instrumental https://fawm.org/songs/96890/

  • @siebass Mar 1

    This was super cool and super fun. Upbeat punk rocky

    https://fawm.org/songs/98084/

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