Suggestions please for MIDI-pedal-thingy

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  • @mdavisto  Jan 11

    Hey FAWMily,

    So, this year I bought a secondhand guitar. It's beat up, but, after a lot of cleaning and love, it's still good, and I'm reliably informed by people that know that it has a great neck. I don't know what that means in real terms, but it's good to know I have something decent.

    Anyway, I'm recording direct in, so all my FX will be VST-based. It's been 22 years since I last played a guitar, but I find I'm missing my old wawa pedal, it was called a screaming something or other. Or perhaps crying? I'm old.

    So I was wondering if there were a MIDI device that could be used to control stuff like this. The pedal for my keys seems to be just on/off switching, but for wawa you need a range of values. I mean I guess I could build one with an arduino and a potentiometer of some kind, but, I have young kids, work, and I'm in my third year of my degree, so I just don't have the time.

    Are midi pedals even a thing? If they are, please recommend something cheap and sturdy.

  • @tseaver  Jan 11

    Prolly what you had was a Dunlop CryBaby WaWa pedal. I see one used at GC Online for $39.99:

    You could maybe get away with assigning the expression wheel on a MIDI keyboard to control a Wah-effect plugin.

  • @scottlake  Jan 11

    Lots of amp simulations that function as an input device that also have wah. My Zoom G5 is an amp and fix simulator that also functions as a usb interface. One thing it doesn’t do is act as a midi controller.

  • @scottlake  Jan 11

    Example of the zoom G5 wah in a funk style

  • @scottlake  Jan 11

    Plenty of other similar multifx amp sims that also are recording interfaces besides zoom

  • @headfirstonly  Jan 11

    Buy a cheap expression pedal and plug it into one of these?

    Or get one of these:

  • @scottlake  Jan 12

    Here's the thing - There is going to be some latency with VST plugins - I have been using Amplitube and Guitar Rig for about a decade. Wah is going to be pretty difficult to pull off with latency present. After I bought my Zoom, I kind of abandoned use of the VST plugins and just record out from the Zoom. Digitech pedals with a rocker pedal were more common. I'm guessing you could find them used in SA.

  • @mdavisto  Jan 13

    Thanks for all the input, guys.

    @tseaver that's pretty much exactly that I want to do, except, I want to be able to play it with my toes. Which, I guess I could do. I have a busted old Maudio Keystation, I could put it on the ground ... hmmmm ...

    @scottlake that Zoom looks great! Significantly north of my budget, though. I get around latency by recording into an empty project and exporting the choice cuts back to the main project, so, about 2ms latency on average, which is ok for me.

    @headfirstonly The Eowave pedal looks like just the thing. I shall send out my spies into the lands to see where one may be procured.

  • @swampjaw  Jan 13

    If you're not afraid of MIDI, and are willing to tweak, the FCB1010 is handy. Programming the thing SUCKS, but once it's programmed, it's pretty powerful. You can configure it to drive all kinds of MIDI gear.

  • @spingo  Jan 14

    A used one of these will do you right. I have a smaller version with no expression pedal, but basically the same guts, and it sounds pretty good.

  • @brownium  Jan 21

    There is third party software for programming the FCB1010. It's inexpensive, and I highly recommend it, though it might be Mac only:

  • @elesimo  Jan 22

    I have a that I love. There's 10 buttons that are pressure sensitive, and you can also connect an expression pedal to it. It sends MIDI messages, all configurable via software.

    It's a bit pricey, so it would only be good investment if you're planning to play live with guitar + computer and want to do things while your hands are busy. I use it to changes patterns in my Octatrack and to control its fader with the expression pedal.

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