thedutchwidows 14


W Midlands UK   Jan 2020

Artist Bio

Influences:   Punk infused with soul.

The Dutch Widows just want to release music. The only important thing is to turn it over. It doesn't need to be perfect. It doesn't even need to be good. It just needs to be finished. Not finished is also OK.


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  • @plushbaby  3 days

    Hello! MArch was good, hope yours was too! The National is my wife's fave band, maybe it has seeped in... I'm not too keen on my low voice sometimes. there is a section in this new demo where I think it goes a bit National -
    Hope all is good where you are!

  • @wolfkier 1 week

    care to help a little?

  • @plushbaby  4 weeks

    So, I'm intruiged... who is the singer I/we sound like? Thanks for the comments!

  • @vomvorton  4 weeks

    Thanks, really enjoyed yours too. Excellent energy!

  • @emkaydeebee  4 weeks

    Hey! Listening to the Spintunes in dribs and drabs between work today, but just caught yours - love it!

  • @ustaknow 4 weeks

    Great spintunes track! 😀

  • @emkaydeebee  4 weeks

    Ah, but what you produced in fawm was excellent! I know what you mean though - 9 days is a long time to sit with a song, long enough to love but then loathe it... I submitted my song on Monday, so just gave myself the weekend to work on it. It has definitely helped me with getting over the post-fawm blues. I say, submit anyway - if you’ve hit the brief you’ve a great chance of making it to the next round 😃

  • @emkaydeebee  5 weeks

    Hey!!! Just seen you’re doing the Spintunes competition!

  • @eargoggle  5 weeks

    What?!?! That's awesome. Above and beyond. Outer space. Thanks for getting my album, I hope you enjoy it. Now I'm hopefully releasing another one or two or actually three- been trying to get my songs from the last 2 years together for release, and because I've procrastinated it just got harder because now I have another batch of songs to sort through and do something with. But, good problem to have I guess.

  • @emkaydeebee  5 weeks

    It’s a great warm up exercise I like to give my students (the how long can a string-bow bow if a string-bow can bow long?) 😁

  • @dancrook 5 weeks

    Thanks for your specific feedback on 'Stuck Here' man. Really appreciated the feedback, particularly when you sent it. Sorry its taken me a while to thank you- took a couple of days off to chill! Big congrats on 14 songs!

  • @eargoggle  5 weeks

    Yeah, same, I wish I discovered you earlier in the month, but better late than never. Fawm is funny like that, I get to thinking, I've heard everybody I really like, whatever, and then somebody comes along who just blows me away, this time that's you. sorry to hear about your mom-in-law. It's funny about that song of mine 'It's Easy,', when I wrote it I thought I was writing about a character in 'the Borrowers', which I'm reading to my daughter now, the old lady who lives in the house who everybody thinks is senile and nobody believes her when she says a little man comes to visit her at night, but now as I'm looking back at it it's like, oh duh, this is about my Dad losing his mind and still being aware of it and imagining what that's like. Weird how we don't know our own songs sometimes. Anyway, then I wrote a song called "Obscured" that actually was trying to be about that. Someday I'll compare the two maybe.

  • @wolfkier 5 weeks

    good luck, my friend.Then I'll go back to hounding you about maybe a a couple over summer from you! LOL. See you/hear you when I do!

  • @wolfkier 5 weeks

    hey, maybe you want to participate in the #tit4tat reciprocal listen/comment group I'm running on the forum. More listens for your great stuff and many magical participants that you might not have encountered yet.... check it out if you're interested, welcome aboard!
    You might think of a few others you can invite too. The more the merrier as FAWM winds down.

  • @brisk  6 weeks

    Same goes - you've really helped me get through a quite difficult FAWM. It is such a cool yet random community. I can't think of another thing like it apart from a music festival where you get more control over where you camp, and who you camp near. See you next year!

  • @ayehahmur  6 weeks

    I think maybe the thing I've done then is taken the careful listening approach - and experimented. Does this loop need three kick drum hits or two? What if I vary the volume? What if I swap it for a tom there? What if I delete that beat entire? But to be honest I don't do a lot of that. I think the MT loops just work really well for what I want.
    I need to get something that does more of an electronic drum sound, because it's lacking in those sorts of rhythms.
    Good luck with your experimenting!

  • @fearlessflight2014  6 weeks

    So kind of you to take time to comment on my music. I’m really grateful for your feedback. 😀

  • @scottl 6 weeks

    Thanks for your feedback on my lyrics and the collab, much appreciated 😀

  • @emkaydeebee  6 weeks

    Thanks so much for your comments, I’m especially proud of the Ajax 409 song!

  • @ayehahmur  6 weeks

    Thanks again for your support and thoughtful comments during the month.
    About my drums - you're really kind but they're based on loops. I use a free VST called MT Power Kit ( There's enough live sounding loops for the sort of stuff I do and for FAWM I usually pick one and edit the midi unti it gives me the right feel for the song. Later on, if they're keepers I might go and tweak it some more, swap in some fills and that sort of thing but I mostly like drums really simple. I love that roominess in a song.

  • @davidtaro  6 weeks

    Thanks so much mate! Will keep an eye out for any Soundcloud additions, and already looking forward to your FAWM ‘22 output 👍

  • @paulotteson  6 weeks

    Thanks for all the kind words this FAWM - Looking forward to catching up on listening. Congrats on crossing the finish line!

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    Thank you for your kind words, squeeze really is the word then, but you did a great job. That chorus is cracking. And congrats on your win, been years since I won a FAWM!
    Sad you don't think you'll do 50/90 but I hope you manage just a few. Maybe 1 or 2 over 3 months! c'moooon....! 😀
    Collab? Maybe, except all my "collabs" end in divorce, LOL, and I love you too much to put you through that.... let's see.
    Have a great spring, my new friend, and give a special hug and treat to your doggy from me, who I think about a lot. God bless.

  • @thesoundof 6 weeks

    Thanks for clarifying the word rhythm. And yes, you're right, I do flex the rhythm. I think I did it purposely but not sure. 😀 Hard to recollect anymore what I though other than getting something done.

  • @wazylizard  6 weeks

    I knew that you would enjoy seeing the Green guy in the last of all the rolls!
    Having you watch and comment on all of them was so helpful in realising what you kept with you in each iteration, and gave me a better idea about what stands out and what is more for general support of the music flow.
    Thanks for following this process and giving feedback all along!

  • @wazylizard  6 weeks

    I'm happy that Purple made you smile, that's the whole point of this song!

    As for the microphone, I can set how much of the mic signal I let in from my loop station (I turn the knob with my toe, usually). I am quite generous with the gain when it come to soft noise, but also rubbing the brush right in front of the mic is louder than one might think.
    I'm using a cheap T-bone EM800 microphone, and I boost the signal in the DAW before the instruments come in generally, plus add a compressor and reverb to amplify the overall sound.
    The exception is the last roll of the month, wherein I used an M-Audio Solaris mic for the voice-over - more on the high-end side of microphones.

  • @kajati 6 weeks

    Its been a pleasure sharing my first Fawm with your music and hearing what you have been writing. For me this has been a mind blowing experience to know that there are so many people out there who express through music. I don't know weather you have an open mind to collaborations during the rest of the year, I will be publishing a page calles "Logistic services" where by I will be publishing audio stems and asking for random contributions, your welcome to it. it will be a total experiment and no body will hear the stems that the others are sending till it gets mixed at the end.
    Could be fun! Have a good year

  • @brisk  6 weeks

    Thanks so much for that! I think your suggestion about the solo sounds very sensible. I will try that. I think I'm going to go cold turkey on my own songs for the rest of the day, but will give other people's a go. Looking forward to some stomp guitar...

  • @emkaydeebee  6 weeks

    Goodness, thank you, so touched! And thanks for putting me on to that other track - it's epic.

  • @zecoop  6 weeks

    Yep, the foreign language definitely helps. Seeing the Welsh words and hearing them definitely lends itself to the made up words Elizabeth made up often. Anyway, I really appreciated your thoughts. 😀

  • @emkaydeebee  6 weeks

    Oh wow, thank you so much for your comment on Light of Night! That is high accolade indeed!!!!

  • @zecoop  6 weeks

    you know I was on top of listening to your songs a few weeks back and now it looks like I suck. I'll catch up, as I love your music. 😀

    And huge thanks for the wonderful comment. It is funny, actually - I am a humungous fan of Cocteau Twins, but never would have guessed that the music had any resemblance after writing and recording it. Even after mixing the final vocal version this morning, I didn't think of that comparison at all. But now that you've mentioned it - ok, yep, I can definitely see that. Maybe it's the mix of the vocals and music. Anyway, I totally get what you said and avoid comparisons myself, but for me that was a huge compliment as they are right up near the top in my books. 😉

  • @davidtaro  6 weeks

    I am sure 🤣

  • @brisk  6 weeks

    Oh, thanks for the comment - you've been a rock of positive commentary this year, it has really helped. I am feeling all FAWMed out, but will catch up on people's latest offerings over the weekend. Nine Lies is just a phone-in job really. It is hard to knuckle down and finish off the last couple so doing a half-arsed mumblegasm like this seems infinitely more appealing.

  • @thesoundof 6 weeks

    Thank you so much for your comment! As a newbie in every way, publishing, composing and everything in music I was just wondering what you meant with the not so obvious way of delivering the lines? With the rhythm of the words? For me, obvious was just what I did I guess.

  • @iwilleatyou 6 weeks

    Wow, comparing us to the Clash? Why thank you sir!

  • @emkaydeebee  6 weeks

    You so much for your comment on Contemplation... not long to go now! Hope you’re doing okay and not too weary yourself?

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    check your email. 😀

  • @wolfkier 7 weeks

    That's an incredible compliment. I'm truly flattered and touched. Thank you again. Let me know if the contact email on your profile link is correct thedutchwidows@g... and I'll happily email you an mp3. 😀

  • @wazylizard  7 weeks

    It is exactly an anti-chord that I do! I only play the notes that are also on the kalimba (D major scale without 3rd and 7th), so I have to mute F and C on the metallophone that has the C major scale. Part of the daily brain exercise haha

  • @wolfkier 7 weeks

    Thank you so much for your generosity with time and very kind words earlier today. Much appreciated. I will try to repay your kindness over the next few hours/day. After the first I heard earlier, I'm sure I'm in for some treats! 😀 Thank you again.

  • @wazylizard  7 weeks

    Yep, I'd like to have a go and see what can two brains make with this song idea! If you can send me the stems at my email address, that would be ace. Another challenge for the finishing week!

  • @bithprod 7 weeks

    Great philosophy! Thanks for the input. 😀

  • @brisk  7 weeks

    Thanks for your unapologetic stalking, I like a stalker who doesn't mince his or her words. Yes, I agree - I think bridge win ratios are probably the most important metrics in life, and in these troubled times we seem to have lost sight of that. I'm glad that it has earworminess - I think it was probably possible to up the annoying catchiness a few notches but lost track of how. Thanks! I will do a bit of reciprocal stalking later, work now...

  • @ayehahmur  7 weeks

    Thanks so much for those comments. Glad the atmosphere came across. And, yes, it's Glasgow,'s raining. It's always raining on nights like that.

  • @wazylizard  7 weeks

    You are so right in saying that I use everything: in the roll 22, when I grabbed the bottles it clinked against my glasses, and I went with it.
    That how you turn mistakes in happy little accidents!

  • @bithprod 7 weeks

    What a perfect artist bio! lol. You've hit the nail with that one. 😀 How do you fight that inner critic (and those outer critics, too, curse them!)?

  • @jgoodell  7 weeks

    Thank you for your comment on “You’re so adorable”.

  • @brisk  7 weeks

    Bless you, your kind words are gratefully received. I have no idea how much like an alto sax this plug in sounds, but if in doubt, slap too much reverb on it and it at least is a pleasant noise - .

  • @theodamus  7 weeks

    Thank you for your lovely comment on Don’t Look Down!

  • @rshakesp  7 weeks

    Thanks - the ‘pun’ on light at the end of the tunnel only occured to me yesterday and seemed like too good an opportunity to pass up on -now i have to try and put a band together and record this thing properly. And yes a few days to collab a couple of songs 😄

  • @paulotteson  7 weeks

    @thedutchwidows - Wow- seriously, thanks so much for your support, and for the bandcamp order. That really means a lot. Funny enough most of the songs on those albums came from FAWM or 5090 many years ago. Anyway, thanks for checking those out-I really appreciate it!

  • @wazylizard  7 weeks

    I thought after recording Roll the Dice 19 that the water pouring was maybe a bit too long, but maybe it is this so that people realise that they need to pay a visit to the loo. I am not architect in how things are organised in our universe, I am merely a worker!
    You are indeed right when you guessed that most of the texturing work is done through the delay pedal. Changing the delay speed while sound is coming through creates these vibrations from outer space float or deep ocean dive, depending on whether the delay speed is increased or decreased.

  • @paulotteson  7 weeks

    Thank you for your comments on "Two of Wands" and "Lady of the Bay". You are too kind!

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  • @moonraccoon  7 weeks

    I wonder if trying to counting out Allies Fall Easiest might drive one batty. It keeps changing. I really appreciate your comments on it.

  • @electrocelte  7 weeks

    Most #bagpipes have drones that are made in 2 or 3 sections which by a gentle twist the overall length of the drone can be shortened or extended hence adjusting the pitch by increments. Shorter sharper longer flatter! Generally they are tuned to the lowest or second lowest note on the melody pipe or chanter.

  • @metalfoot  7 weeks

    It's not our usual style, either of us... LOL. But it was fun to do. I'll give a listen to some of your stuff!

  • @davidtaro  7 weeks

    Don’t you dare rethink anything!! Your stuff has been consistently awesome 😀 keep it going!

  • @brisk  7 weeks

    Ha, thanks! You do realise that this is only going to encourage such slovenly lyrical behaviour in future...

  • @aflinner  8 weeks

    Thanks for listening and commenting. 😀

  • @moonraccoon  8 weeks

    "Your question suggests it was either reasonably successful or wildly unsuccessful"

    ooOOoo... Am I now a master of misdirection? (Probably not 😉 )

  • @opossum 8 weeks

    Dear The Dutch Widows,

    Thank you for listening to my music! There are three things I love in life, 1) eating garbage, 2) playing dead and 3) praise for my music!

    Your pal,

  • @rshakesp  8 weeks

    hmm perhaps I didn't make it clear enough - Wendell finally understands empathy here - recognising that he has to act as part of a couple not as an observer. Food for thought...

  • @wazylizard  8 weeks

    The bow did not have much effect on the thicker crash cymbal; the thiner china emits beautiful and loud sound waves though, so you have to try and see (or try and hear). And it's a bit more refined that vertically scraping the drumstick on the cymbal, which makes it squeal like a fork on a plate.

  • @wazylizard  8 weeks

    I'm late at replying to all your comments. First, thanks for all the feedback, it is actually guiding me in my sound research - as you noticed, I'm bowing everything around!
    For Roll the Dice 13, I'm alternating between high and low E strings, whence the different pitch. But then the haunting squeals come from stroking very close to the bridge.
    As for Roll the Dice 11, they are potentially called sizzlers in their new function, but they are just the copper staples that where used to close the cardboard pane of the parcel containing the cymbals. Upcycling at its finest 😀

  • @brisk  8 weeks

    Thanks for the kind comment - I'm coming to terms with the fact that I'm basically a Soundboard vampire, trying to suck up all those comments where I can to feed my ... whatever part of it is that cares enough to make songs.

  • @rshakesp  Feb 13

    Thanks for your continued interest in my story! What I’m finding most challenging is keeping the story moving with so few words to play with - like trying to write an opera with only arias and no recitative... I think I may have a bit of a twist coming up next!

  • @avidfanman  Feb 13

    Thank you for your kind words on my songs “Event Horizon” and “Give Up & Die”! Hope you are having an awesome FAWM so far 😎

  • @davidtaro  Feb 13

    Hi mate. Thanks for the nice comment on Still Got You. You nailed pretty much everything I was trying to cram into that one. The drums are samples though, so can't take credit for those 😉

  • @electrocelte  Feb 11

    Thank you for cutting and pasting these crazy lyrics! “ “leftthebuttonintheshitteratagasstationinmarylandwithhisshoppinglistofa rmamentsforfuturewars”... I didn’t even take a breath!! 🎸

  • @emkaydeebee  Feb 11

    Thanks for your comment on the Siren's Lament! That's a good description for the feel of the octave violin, I like it!

  • @ayehahmur  Feb 11

    Thanks! It's a harpsichord (not a real one obvs).

  • @wazylizard  Feb 11

    @thedutchwidows Thanks again, I'm glad that you are enjoying each of these! What comes after 3:30 is throat singing: I stick the end of my tongue up my palate, emit the sound 'LLLLL', and by moving my tongue around - while keeping the L sound going - different frequencies get amplified. It's a good shower exercise 😁

    As for choosing what I use, sometimes I have one or two instruments in my head before throwing the dice (like with the cactus, the coffee grinder, or the metallophone), sometimes not, and then I choose what comes with it according to how many instruments I have to use. Yesterday I didn't know, and voice seemed the best for a slow-growing, ritualistic delivery.

  • @gm7  Feb 11

    Thx for the kind words on Gotta Get Better...
    it was fun to play!

  • @moonraccoon  Feb 10

    Thank you for your kind comment on Smallest of Things.

  • @celineellis  Feb 9

    Thanks for your comments on my somewhat random song 'Soar' - Ive never written a song not on guitar before so i loved this challenge, and love the song that has resulted from it.

  • @petemurphy  Feb 9

    Ha! Yeah, I prefer the smaller venues. Give me a tiny, sweaty back room of a back street pub any day. All of my favourite gigs I've done have been in places that become rammed when there are 30 people in there.

    We used to sometimes jam with a tabla player from KH. I can't remember the guy's name, but he was amazing, and pretty well known on the local music scene.
    You're right. It's so cool the way all of the different cultures and influences join up in those areas. I've been out of the scene for a long time now, so I have no idea if it's still thriving (although obviously not right at this moment, because of the covid situation).

  • @nuno  Feb 9

    Thanks for your great comments on Maybe; my first this year!

  • @petemurphy  Feb 8

    Yeah, they were both great venues. It was a dark day when the Jug closed. I've played the Hare loads of times. I think the first time I played there was '94, and the last time was 2012. I don't play live any more, but those were some of my favourite places.

  • @bunter  Feb 8

    Thanks for taking the time to listen and your comment.

  • @petemurphy  Feb 8

    Oh cool! My wife grew up in King's Heath (Brandwood Park Road area), and I spent a lot of time around KH and Moseley back in the day with my old band, playing the Jug of Ale, Hare and Hounds, etc.. We even played the very first Moseley festival.

  • @majordanby  Feb 8

    Good evening. Thanks for listening and enjoying. I was really happy with the chords. The original words came quickly, but were changed after Dan suggested a different meaning. I’m pleased with the outcome. Good demo.

  • @petemurphy  Feb 8

    Hey, thanks for the great comments. I'll get to your page very soon and have a listen to what you're doing.
    I just noticed that you're in the West Mids. Which part? I'm in Sutton Coldfield, but I've lived in various parts (born and raised in Coventry, lived in Yardley, Solihull, and I have family scattered all over the area).

  • @rshakesp  Feb 7

    Thanks for all your comments - really supportive- and I’m having a blast trying to weave my way through the challenge I’ve given my self.

  • @mrtylerlarson  Feb 7

    Thx so much for listening and your comments on my tracks "Alex" and "Snow". I appreciate that a lot! Best, -T.

  • @electrocelte  Feb 6

    Thanks very much for your sympathies @thedutchwidows! His family know about this tune and they love it 😀 Thanks for listening.

  • @mariekevinkmusic  Feb 5

    Enough! You are making me blush.

  • @mariekevinkmusic  Feb 4

    Ah thanks for the nice words. @celineellis and I were thinking about that Safety in Silence section and we just felt the song didn't need a chorus. Only when it was all finished did we realise that having it as a one-off added power to it. Sometimes things happen by accident 😀 Thanks for listening!

  • @wazylizard  Feb 4

    I'm glad that you are enjoying the #roll-the-dice songs! It is throat singing indeed, and about the pedals, well, there is a few! In Roll The Dice 3, it's mostly playing around with a couple of delay pedals, but there is more to uncover ahah

  • @ayehahmur  Feb 4

    Hey man, thanks so much for taking the time to comment on Fixer Upper. Interesting in your comment about the BVs. I thought I was taking a risk going with octaves instead of harmonies but I really like how that strengthens but still leaves lots of empty space. Might do it again in the right song. Cheers!

  • @dancrook Feb 4

    Thanks for the kind words bro

  • @brisk  Feb 3

    Thanks for saying nice things! I love FAWM, but it is probably bad for me. It's basically crack as far as my brain is concerned. Incidentally you just made me realise that so far for me it has been two for two for death, bereavement and grief. Let's hope the next one lets a little sunshine in... I'm rambling. Thanks!

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  • @celineellis  Feb 2

    Thanks for the kind words on my first song this year! I have some expectations to live up to now hahaha ! have a great month!

  • @radioovermoscow Feb 2

    Haha, thanks. I did some very loud testing with the mic a month or two ago, and it sounded awful when recorded... Turns out the benefits from sheer volume are somewhat limited with an amp that emulates others, thankfully!

  • @electrocelte  Jan 21

    Thanks very much for your comment on my 14th track of 2020. See you soon!