Neither Use Nor Ornament 7

@nuno 

North Linc UK   Feb 2019


Artist Bio

Influences:   Art of Noise, Thomas Dolby, Depeche Mode, Laurie Anderson, Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, Peter Gabriel.

This will be my 4th FAWM; my first two appearances were as part of @Aesthetic72 (big shout out to Kelly πŸ˜€ - Go and check out her songs and collabs, and her wonderful voice)

I had a good crack at 2019 FAWM, but 2020 involved a new house, and decorating before the impending arrival of new furniture) - This year I'm making some time for FAWM 😁 - My job for January was to clear enough space so I can put all the bits of the studio together in one place! - I succeeded, so it's full steam ahead.

Good luck to you all in this fab community.....

update - 28/2 - well it's been a busy two weeks that has meant much slower progress than I'd hoped at the end, and I've not had chance to listen to and comment on other people's work, so sorry for that. Now that my last track is done, I shall try to catch up.

I'm really pleased I managed to get 7 done - I know that's half the target, but it's more than I've ever managed before.

Hope you all had a blast too.

I'm intending to try my luck at 50/90 - I can't have @huno on there, so you'll find me under @nuno-5090 - http://fiftyninety.fawmers.org/user/nuno-5090 - I hope to see some of you there later in the year. 😁

Songs (7)

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  • @wolfkier 3 weeks

    care to help a little? https://fawm.org/forums/topic/11940/

  • @gm7  5 weeks

    Your vocals are fine. I can't sing at all..when i do my neighbour calls and says your cat is stuck your shed again ...bummer!
    Nice drum beat and the synths are cool. I agree the chorus could do with a change..maybe a key change or different chord progression.
    very nice.
    #tit4tat1

  • @gm7  5 weeks

    Hi..i like to try 4 . Looking forward to the listen.

  • @davidtaro  6 weeks

    Hey @nuno, thanks for that last batch of comments! Really appreciated, you lovely human being you πŸ˜€

  • @katestantonsings 6 weeks

    See ya in July!!!

  • @katestantonsings 6 weeks

    Hi Nuno! We are a lot alike in that way. I completely understand! I followed you on SoundCloud, and I hope to connect musically during 50/90. Until then, keep it up! Soak up all kinds of inspiring stuff to prepare πŸ˜€

  • @davidtaro  6 weeks

    Hi Nuno! If you still have the energy/inclination, let me know if you're up for some #tit4tat. Could do all 7 if you want? πŸ˜€

  • @katestantonsings 6 weeks

    Hi Nuno! Thanks for the #tit4tat comments! Your name and influences have intrigued me. Listening in 5, 4, 3, 2...

  • @ferry0123 6 weeks

    Thanks as well, likewise!

    Yes, till next time.. 50/90 I suppose πŸ˜€

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    dont forget to mark your calendar for rocktober too. LOL. Your dance card is getting kinda full, my friend. πŸ˜€
    http://fiftyninety.fawmers.org/rocktobersongs

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    also maybe put a note on your soundboard here that you'll be @nuno-5090 at 50/90. or tell a few friends to find you there in advance. This is your profile page there http://fiftyninety.fawmers.org/user/nuno-5090.

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    blacklisted? Was there once a naughty nuno? LOL.

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    gotcha!

    oh and that hashtag was supposed to be an " @nuno at FAWM."

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    sad. Here's me. When you sign up come leave me a note and/or watchlist. http://fiftyninety.fawmers.org/user/wolf-kier
    For others' take a list of everyone you want to look up from here and search for them either now or when 50/90 begins. Most everybody is the same. A few might not be. In your 50/90 bio, add that you go by #nuno on fawm, might fish you in a few by coincidence/accident.

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    oh it's possible. Here's a list of all the songs tagged "skirmish" this FAWM, click on one or two of the ones with little speakers for audio done quick to see some examples. Choose one of those with many comments and you might be surprised the quality. The ones with the little page icon are of course lyrics written under skirmish conditions.

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    Yes, 50/90 too. Over the weekends there should be one per weekend night at least and every so often there's enough demand for a big superskirmish, If you click through the forum each day and quick look you're sure to find them. But even there, there's a dedicated Forum section where they are listed. Here's that link to bookmark if you want. http://fiftyninety.fawmers.org/forums/song-skirmishes

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    On the forum link (at the top of any fawm page) When they have skirmishes, they are listed there. Couple weekends they have superskirmishes - like 20 in a row.
    Here's the links for all the skirmishes they had this Feb. https://fawm.org/forums/skirmishes/ (choose any one link and read through it, you'll see what I mean in the expanation below)
    Skirmish is: You wait till time listed, on the skirmish page for that particular one, the host, at exactly x o'clock, posts a song prompt, say, "no time" or "remember when". Skirmish participants go for it and write a song within one hour based on the prompt, some do lyrics, some do one take vox/piano/guitar, and post the songs like normal then go back to the skirmish prompt page and say, here's mine. The next hour is for listening to each other's work and commenting.
    Then, 2 hrs after the last one (in the case of a superskirmish) there's a new page, new songwriting prompt, new hour's crazy writing, new hour listening commenting. Etc....
    I'ts like speed dating for songwriting. Let me know if you have any other questions or I wasn't clear.

  • @wolfkier 6 weeks

    having fun yet? πŸ˜€

  • @ferry0123 6 weeks

    I took the opportunity to feel free to comment on 'She sits' as part of the #tit4tat game...

  • @nadine 6 weeks

    De-Esser? I avoid these since its nothing but a very special multiband compressor. I think is best recording with a pop killer and pronouncing the s as soften as possible.
    On the previous comment I was speaking of a common compressor.
    Yeah you can use volume automation aswell but I would do this before the compressor kicks in.

    Thanks for your recommendations! I already knew them. Listened to that kind of music the previous 3 years quite intense xD

    I'll post the final mixes on SoundCloud and later on at Bandcamp. But these can take a while since everything's about to be recorded in some weeks. And I'm finishing my electronic album first.

  • @nadine 6 weeks

    You're right. That's why I don't master songs unless the arrangement and mix is fully finished.

    Vocals: Have you already tried to fix the syllables before compressing? I don't work with higher comp ratios than 1:3 for this reason. Maybe you're moving too much when recording. Could also be that you're singing to quietly.

    Good luck with your work! I'm pretty unsure if whether I'll join 50/90. Honestly, I think I'm fine with polishing and mixing all the stems I'll receive the next weeks and months. 11 songs with ~20 people involved - that's huge! And I love doing artwork. I've written the 50/90 entry day into my calender but I will take that decision shortly before it. Joining 50/90 to post all these results songs somehow wrong, hein?!

  • @nadine 6 weeks

    Thanks for stopping by and returning #tit4tat with lots of useful comments!

    Especially the comment on "Angel in Jeans" helped mem a lot. I knew there was trouble with the arrangement, but I did not spot it. So I'll try to fix that harp. Haven't thought about phaser, flanger and chorus. These are effects I usually don't use since they sound 70ish.

    Yes, guitar VSTs are troublesome. They became better during the past 10 years, but programming own strumming patterns and metalish powerchords is still a desaster. I do lots of magic in here, but it will not replace a guitarist. It's more sort of a sketch for somebody to play. I'm looking forward that most of the songs will be rerecorded with real instruments in the next weeks and months. The songs will sound totally different!

    Wowzers, you did both writing AND mixing during FAWM. I already need half a day or a day for the composition and arrangement. Maybe just another day for creating smooth transitions. Two days for mixing and mastering at least, most of the time one week. So my FAWM is more FAWM and arrangement - recordings and mixing afterwards.

    When you have troubles with recording and mixing vocals you should try to take several takes and mix a best-of. I usually use some pitch correction software, even out some notes. Have you already worked with a compressor? I noticed that the dynamics of your voice is really high, so maybe start getting these straight. You don't have to hide your voice. Today's music is full of pitch correction and unskilled singers. Nobody cares - really!

    As for the drums its a matter of taste. Pop music can sound really good with synthetic drums. I totally dig synthpop. But... somehow I cannot produce some.

    Thank you so much!

  • @richaaaay  6 weeks

    When you say 128 input channels is that what it sounds like? Is that possible? I use a Focusrite 2i4, which has two inputs and a midi input. I'm at a loss to imagine what you are referring to. I must be missing something...Do you use and preamps or gain boosters (like a Cloudlifter). I wonder how to get better result with my SM81.

  • @richaaaay  6 weeks

    I just noticed you asked about reverb. Everything I use is stock through GarageBand. I'm reasonable at navigating around GB but when it comes to reverb, mixing, eq or compression and such I have absolutely no idea what it is I am doing. I feel like I just get lucky sometimes but there is nothing I do that really adds much to the production element. Some people on FAWM are production wizards. That's not me...yet! I hope to learn and maybe tap into some brain power here. I kinda work in a vacuum but maybe that will change as a result of meeting so many wonderful like minded peeps through FAWM...

  • @richaaaay  6 weeks

    Your description of the computer response was constant with what I felt. The human response was definitely more contemplative and emotion. Less predictable but also maybe more sensible (is that possible?).

    To answer your question about mics, for acoustic I used a Rode NT-1A and a Shure SM-81 on the guitar. There was a fair bit of sound bleed as I played and sang act the same time. That may not be the best way. Regarding the clean tones, that's an electric plugged direct through an audio interface. I use GarageBand and they have some nice clean tones that I believe are supposed to simulate playing through Fender amps. I gravitate towards the clean tones. I was playing a Fender Telecaster for most of the electric.

  • @richaaaay  6 weeks

    Nuno...great stuff. Fun to #tit4tat with you. Our styles are so different but I feel like there is some mutual appreciation. Thanks for embarking on the journey!

  • @nadine 6 weeks

    Ready for some #tit4tat? Not doing much electronic music these days, but I' will take 4 of you. Take as many you like.

  • @sailingmagpie  7 weeks

    Hey Nuno. I'm always in for tit4tat! I've got some time later today, so I'll pay you a visit.

  • @richaaaay  7 weeks

    Hey Nuno, I've listened to four so far. I'll listen to the others after you've listened to some of mine. Just to afford the opportunity for a little back and forth. Good stuff you've posted here. Way out of the norm for my typical listening. It's great to hear though. I'm so curious how you do it...

  • @richaaaay  7 weeks

    Great...let’s go for seven. I would recommend anything with a heart, definitely Marco?, which was a super fun collaboration. One’s without hearts I would say The Rock, Cyclone or Howl’n.

  • @wolfkier 7 weeks

    If you want to hear someone who plays wonderfully with song architecture, I think you might, check out @sailingmagpie on #tit4tat, tell him I sent you. πŸ˜€

  • @wolfkier 7 weeks

    πŸ˜€

  • @richaaaay  7 weeks

    Hello Nuno...I hear you might be game for some #tit4tat...Let me know. Wolf sent me...

  • @wolfkier 7 weeks

    thank YOU.
    Scrapbook was a pretty epic listen. thanks for the tip.
    See you for the Summer Songhunt, my new friend πŸ˜€

  • @sciren  7 weeks

    Wow, thank you SO much for listening to and commenting on the whole thing! I really appreciate that! To get all the panning and effects that I wanted, there are over 20 vocal layers on most of these project files. It crashed my laptop many, many times this month lol. I like the suggestion to ramp up the distortion in "attack:rage", I think that's a great idea! I'll jot it down in my post-production notes. Thank you again. I'm so glad people are listening and enjoy it. πŸ˜€

  • @skittycat  7 weeks

    Thanks for the comment on my final instrumental track. Its really basic and not at all finished so thanks for leaving a comment. Glad you liked it.

  • @hizuvi 7 weeks

    Thank you for the kind words!

  • @mccannrs 7 weeks

    Thanks so much for the comment on Perennial Life of an Evergreen, I really appreciate it! For the drums, all I'm doing is building a kit out of samples I like in Ableton, and then trying my best to change the velocity of different hits to match how a drummer might actually phrase a passage.

  • @ampersandman  Feb 12

    Thanks for listening to and de-zonging my song! Appreciate the kind words!

  • @cherok40 Feb 10

    Thanks a lot for your kind comments on my track "Lullaby For A Cat". Much appreciated!
    Will

  • @nahlej381  Feb 10

    Much appreciate the comment on Andi with an β€œI” that song was well outside my comfort zone but it’s fun doing stuff that’s different sometimes.

  • @nerdjealous  Jan 31

    Hiya and welcome to FAWM 21 fellow Brit! 😁
    allthebest for the challenge ahead - woo I'm excited!!